Number 16 is funny. Those poor early JW's carting around how many of those bound volumes to people on a "donation" basis. Now days they don't "sell" tracts - just kingdom halls.
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Climate Change - True Believer or Skeptic?
by Simon inclimate change ... who doesn't believe it?
crazy fools and science deniers ... right?.
it seems like it's become the new religion, the new orthodoxy, that must be accepted and believed as gospel and preached to all.. is it ok to be skeptical?.
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LoveUnni - Volcanoes affect the earth when they spew ash and gases. The fine ash can circle around the earth for several months affecting weather. Are you saying the chemicals and pollutants from factories don't have an effect? I'm not talking extremes but certainly they do something to the earth.
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The Organizations obsession with image.
by BourneIdentity inas we all know, the highest priority or concern in the religion isn’t about adhering to god’s word or obeying jehovah and jesus, but rather the image of the organization and all its members.
just yesterday there was a talk where the brother stated how important it is to keep our homes clean, yards free of junk piling up and cars clean, because it could possibly detract from the message.
besides those things he mentioned, they want all males to never grow a beard or goatee.
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Long time ago, there was an article about Gluttony. A sister in my hall, she was funny and nice and overweight. That article made her feel bad because she recognized that being overweight made her a glutton. But I wouldn't say she sat around eating. She wasn't tremendously big either.
Then you see the heavy weight GB's. They look like their suits are just barely fitting them. What really gets me is the picture that was in a WT, that showed a little skinny old sister with two tupperware containers in her fridge, being encouraged to donate what little money she had, to the big greedy GB. They are the pigs in Animal farm indeed.
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A possible move?
by careful inin the second section (money stuff) of this morning's usa today newspaper (print copy p. 5b) there is one of those legal notices that groups put up in order to announce things and set deadlines.
this one is from the santa fe, new mexico archdiocese, mandated by the us bankruptcy court.
it's notification that people who were sexually abused by rc priests have until june 17 to file their claims.. this got me wondering.
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If they did, they'd have to put a mighty spin on it. They'd have to ride hard, "the imperfect man" scenario and hope that the old ones would still cling to them and count on a kind of "whatever" from the new ones.
The Catholic church survived because they are a "tradition" and institution in more peoples lives. Is the JW religion that much that it could survive?
Before they do any admitting, I think they would be busy transferring monies into other places so they could hold their hands out and say "we don't have any money to pay out"
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Climate Change - True Believer or Skeptic?
by Simon inclimate change ... who doesn't believe it?
crazy fools and science deniers ... right?.
it seems like it's become the new religion, the new orthodoxy, that must be accepted and believed as gospel and preached to all.. is it ok to be skeptical?.
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When I was growing up, winters were wet, spring sprinkles with some sunny days, summer hot and and sunny, fall cooler with the leaves falling. It was a regular pattern.
Now days, winter, spring, fall, summer happen at any time. A few days of winter, followed by summer and then it's fall and spring - and that happens in a two week period. Possibly summer is the longest that remains the same.
This is in California from the 1960's (regular) to maybe 1980"s (?) Because it started being bits and pieces around then and now, yeah it's all over the place.
Sadly, I've read that the emperor's penguin nursery on a large ice shelf, has disappeared, drowning the chicks.
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How do they decide when to get rid of certain information in their publications?
by Tameria2001 ini was recently watching a video on youtube and on the john cedars channel, he was talking about how the watchtower has discontinued quite a few of their books from back when i was still active.
so it got me to thinking about how do they decide that certain teaching doesn't fit them anymore.
so i was wondering does anyone have any ideas on how they come to that decision because if any of their members bring up something, that person can be disfellowshipped?.
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Wouldn't you think, that if there were many inquiries at the headquarter over a matter, that the WT keeps a log of it. They must review whats going on and either change it or shoot it down in the "Questions from the Readers" When it becomes worrisome (teaching) because events change (or don't - 1975, Millions now living will never die) they must project a timeline to get rid of it. New books, new understanding.........
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history repeats itself
by waton inor why jws are immune to insight.
this week's midweek meeting bible reading 1 cor.
14 " it is a disgrace for woman to speak".
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The bible/wt continually points at Eve as the example to fit all women. Funny how they don't use Saul as an example for all men.
Eve = she was tricked and is untrustworthy. Solution - She should always have a man tell her what to do.
Adam - lost the chance for a perfect life because the desire for his wife swayed him. Solution - Don't let men be in a position of leadership.
See, never will happen with the men because they wrote the book.
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When You Would Hear A Talk About Committing “Secret Sins” How Did You React?
by minimus init seemed as if every year a talk would be given in the congregation or at a convention about “secret sins”.
very predictably, witnesses would have pangs of conscience and confess their secret sin.. back in the 70s, one sister with an unbelieving mate went to the elders to confess about husband and her engaging in oral sex.
she was privately reproved for her “sin” and every so often would approach the elders to say she slipped up again.. i know i’d never tell anybody about my sex life just because of misguided guilt.
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I remember more than 9 (?) years ago, at a two day assembly, a talk about putting past sins away and forgetting them. The speaker went on about how he had a friend that had a favorite sweater. One day he ruined it somehow and got a hole in it. He kept the sweater in a drawer and wouldn't get rid of it because one day, he was going to fix it. Finally his mom threw it away.
The speaker put on his sad voice and gently said, maybe we have done something in the past and made amends but we can't just forgive ourselves or forget it. He went on about how it was like the sweater and we should just throw our past sins away.
Funny thing is, at first it seemed like it was a great talk. But then all of things I'd done in the past, seemed to have been brought up again in my mind, and I felt even guiltier.
I guess that was the point of the talk. Unless they just wanted the men in the audience to step up and take some positions in the hall and not make the excuse of not being worthy.
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Engaged and having a baby, I’m not JW fiancé is
by Viarayne ini’m not interested in becoming a jehovah’s witness but have nothing against people who are, or whatever religion someone chooses to follow for that matter.
i am here because i have some questions regarding my family and i. .
my fiancé stopped going to church prior to us meeting.
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If he does go back and wants to be full in, there is a possiblity he will want to be married (with the hope of converting you) or he'll step back and make it a condition of marrying him to be a JW. If he wants to straddle the line, it might get tiresome for you as he tries to make everyone at the hall happy, family happy and you happy.
Forewarned is forearmed. As was suggested, take a look at JWfacts.
It is not that they are terrible people, but that they follow a group of men that claim to be God's spokesmen. In following them, they will turn their backs on family that don't obey those men. The rules they impose on the followers, are like of the pharisees of Jesus's day.
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The "Food Truck" analogy
by stuckinarut2 ini was pondering the way the society condemns anyone who looks for "spiritual food" outside of their approved channel.
as we know, jws are only to go to the approved website, and research material.. this illustration came to mind.. lets say we have a 5star fancy restaurant, and a new clean food truck.
both kitchens prepare a meal.. if the food is simply assessed on its own merit, and the source of its production is ignored, it can be deemed as healthy, safe, nutritious and tasty.
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The WT food is unhealthy. It is nothing but this
with a side of